Blog package co-dev Options
pph
Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:09:47 AM
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I think a co-dev on this package could be really good, so it would a shame if the conversation was lost during the transition from the yahoo group, so here's a copy paste:


<strong>Niels Hartvig (umbraco) wrote:</strong>
It's a thrill to see all those umbraco blogs popping up, and I think we're
getting really close on a good blog package if we could collect all the tiny
adjustments from all of them.

Here's what is out now:

- The umbracoBlog package (lacks archive xslts and template/css
adjustments on Kubrick template, but has the basics as well as a technorati
pinger)

- The calendar (by PeterD ->
http://umbraco.bruunebonen.com/2006/5/8/calendar.aspx)

- Gravatar (by Daniel ->
http://weblog.151278.org/weblog/archive/2006/july/9th/gravatar-aware-comment
s.aspx)


Here's what I miss

- Ajax style category picker (it should be possible to add new blog
categories while writing a post instead of going into the datatype section)

- Trackback

- E-mail comments (a checkbox "Send me an e-mail if anyone comments
to my comment")

- Better installer with configuration (like setting up the
dashboard posting widget automatically and adding rss)

- More template/skin choises?

- Other?


I'm quite busy these weeks, but I'd love to help mentoring this project and
setup svn+bugtracking+campfire chats. So: Anyone up for a co-development
project to create the ultimate blog package for umbraco (I'll donate
"umbracoBlog - I made this!" t-shirts for the first three who contributes
*G*) ?
/n


<strong>Morten (sharpgis) replied:</strong>
What about:
-captcha-image in the comments-section to avoid spam-comments?
-Comments added to the RSS feed.



<strong>Darren ferguson replied:</strong>
Hi Everyone.

I had a mail form Kasper a week or so back who was interested in picking
up dev on this.

I am checking the enhancements that I made into SVN as we speak.

Before anyone picks this up and runs with it, please give me a day or so
to get my stuff in.

By the way. My requested feature is Atom API implementation, so you can
blog to photos from a mobile handset via flickr.
I am interested in doing some of the Atom myself.

Thanks.
Darren.


<strong>Daniel bjørnbakk replied:</strong>
I'm in!


As for categories,

My blog just use a textarea for categories - and when I publish a new post,
it goes trough the children in the categoriesFolder and if a tag is missing,
then it creates the new categoriesItem on-the-fly using actionHandlers.


Daniel

Umbracian Personal blog: Objects.dk
pph
Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:13:06 AM
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And to reply to it myself, I'm interested in working on this aswel.

Umbracian Personal blog: Objects.dk
darrenferguson
Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:34:03 AM
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Hi Guys, I got a little sidetracked in building a bat file that automatically removes an installed blog extension to aid testing the installer ascx.

I should have all the fixes I made into SVN by tomorrow.

I think that the first stream of work for this co-development is to make the naming of XSLT's, Doc Types, CSS and Templates consistent as it is a bit messy at the mo.

Suggested prefix: umbBlog



Darren Ferguson - http://www.darren-ferguson.com
darrenferguson
Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:33:26 PM
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Please see this post: <a href="http://www.darren-ferguson.com/2006/07/20/umbraco-blog-02-is-in-svn.aspx">http://www.darren-ferguson.com/2006/07/20/umbraco-blog-02-is-in-svn.aspx</a>

I have done all the fixing that I wanted to do, so I am not moving stuff in and out of SVN anymore.

My only request. Please update the release notes as you chnage things!



Darren Ferguson - http://www.darren-ferguson.com
simplespirit
Posted: Friday, July 21, 2006 2:48:08 AM
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XHTML and CSS compliance would be nice.
kenny
Posted: Saturday, August 12, 2006 5:26:47 PM

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I used the Captcha from CodeProject: http://www.codeproject.com/aspnet/CaptchaImage.asp
A good starting point I guess...

Kenneth Solberg - xeed* - core dev - level 2 cert pro - my blog
kalpa
Posted: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:42:32 PM

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Just a reminder about some of the drawbacks with CAPTCHAs. As all web devs know by now images are unreadable to most visually impaired users and the spam bots have been spiced up and manages to solve CAPTCHA's pretty good, I've read figures stating that these bots manages to solve about 88-100% of the CAPTCHA's they have been tested with.

If you understand swedish there's a great <a href="http://kranium.se/blogg/artikel/varfoer-du-inte-boer-anvaenda-captcha-och-alternativen/">blog post about this over at kranium.se</a>, otherwise there are some information in english below...

<a href="http://news.com.com/2100-1032-1022814.html">c|net News.com "Spam-bot tests flunk the blind"</a>

<a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/turingtest/">W3C's "Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA"</a>

The alternatives?
W3C mentions some <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/turingtest/#solutions">here</a> and Daniel Lopresti at Lehigh University meantions a quite a bunch <a href="http://www.cse.lehigh.edu/prr/hip2005/Presentations/Lopresti_HIP2005.pdf">in this PDF</a>.

For Wordpress both Akismet and Bad Behavior seems to be doing a great job, are there any equivalents in the .Net world? I don't know...

// ;) Kalle

" - Yeah I'd like to share your point of view, as long as it's my view too... (http://www.d-a-d.dk/lyrics/pointofview)
cpalm
Posted: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:58:14 PM

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Is there any spam post problem in umbraco build blogs?
I think there kind of two spambots.

1. The one build for targeting specific web applications (wordpress, cs etc)
I do not think that a umbraco blog package should fear that yet

2. The second one is spambots that just post around, and hopefully gets stuffed published.
This could be a problem.

A way to get around the spambots for now could be using ajax, but then we would leave explorer on macs out
More info <a href="http://www.cpalm.dk/blog/2006/07/22/please-make-a-comment.aspx">http://www.cpalm.dk/blog/2006/07/22/please-make-a-comment.aspx</a>

Regards/Christian
<a href="http://www.cpalm.dk">www.cpalm.dk</a>

CPalm, www.cpalm.dk
HFloyd
Posted: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:10:09 PM

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Does anyone know the status of this project?

I have a new related post here:

http://forum.umbraco.org/6678

Thanks!

Heather

Whole Web Impact | Floyd Innovations LLC | Heather Floyd's Blog
neehouse
Posted: Friday, December 08, 2006 10:21:28 PM

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I have not heard anything of this lately, but will mention that I revised the blog calendar to get it to work at various levels as well as to show all posts. I will post the source to it if anyone is interested.

Thanks
Case

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bootnumlock
Posted: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:21:20 AM

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I would like to revive this post because blog spam is starting to creep into my site and i noticed that kasper's blog gets pretty hammered by it as well.

any thoughts?

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hartvig
Posted: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 11:52:23 AM

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Per to the rescue:
http://objects.dk/2006/7/29/captchaforumbraco.aspx

Jeeeez, did I really start this :-)
SoerenS
Posted: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 1:03:07 PM

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jesper
Posted: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:41:33 PM

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I just downloaded it from objects.dk. The download seems to miss a umbraco/captchaimage.aspx. Anyone got it?

Kindly,

Jesper

webbureau jesper.com doing webdesign / development / umbraco implementations / 2007&2008 MVP / umbraco certified
SoerenS
Posted: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:55:16 PM

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Heh, I was wondering about the exact same thing when I started installing it.

But it is actually not needed! My guess is that the HttpHandler that you set up in your web.config looks for request for that URL and takes over after that.

Anyways, I don't have the file and my Chapta installation works just fine.

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jesper
Posted: Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:37:59 AM

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Thanks Soeren - you were right. Maybe next time I'll remember to update the web.config as supposed :hmm:

Kindly,

Jesper

webbureau jesper.com doing webdesign / development / umbraco implementations / 2007&2008 MVP / umbraco certified
raz
Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:42:19 PM
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Hi guys,

regarding your captcha issue, i am trying to set it up, following the instructions on http://objects.dk/2006/7/29/captcha-for-umbraco.aspx, but the picture is not being displayed.

I would appreciate any help :)

Thanks!
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