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Am having great difficulty (and its most likely me being stupid) but i can't seem to create urls with sub directories e.g. : http://www.mysmallsite.com/somefolder/default.aspxi created the default.aspx page, fine works. I then wanted to create a folder that, when a user went to it, would show a default page. I created a folder document type, and added the folder on the same level as my default.aspx page. I then published it, but it created the "Link to document" value of /somefolder.aspx. I created a sub node below that folder default (i.e. the default page of that folder?) and it created a link to document called /default.aspx. What am i doing wrong in creating sub nodes and sub pages and sub whatevers!?! HELP! (why is there no tutorials on this simple steps in creating a new website? or one that i can easily find!)
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Hi Colin, and welcome to umbraco! Umbraco 'hides' the top-level nodes of your site from the url by default, though you can change this by altering the <add key="umbracoHideTopLevelNodeFromPath" value="true"/> setting in the /web.config file. But that's probably a minor point. The bigger issue is to understand how umbraco makes urls. First of all, every node in your content tree has a url to it. It doesn't matter if you call it a folder or a page, it has a url. The url is derived from the path to the node, based on the nodes' names. Here's a typical umbraco content section and the associated urls (with umbracoHidetopLevelNodeFromPath set to true, the default): Code:CONTENT
- Home (/, or /home.aspx)
-- Products (/products.aspx)
--- Phones (/products/phones.aspx)
--- Batteries (/products/batteries.aspx)
-- About Us (/about-us.aspx)
... etc ...
If you disable the hiding of toplevel nodes, the above urls would become: Code:
/, or /home.aspx
/home/products.aspx
/home/products/phones.aspx
/home/products/batteries.aspx
/home/about-us.aspx
... etc ...
Umbraco gives nice, friendly urls, which are great for search engine optimization as well as for humans to remember. You don't have to use the cryptic, 'default.aspx' any more. Hope this helps. cheers, doug.
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Hi and thanks for the welcome, Ahh I see what you are doing. Its the "home" that you are disabling. Excellent that will make things more structured. I will look into this now and come back if i have more difficulties. I actually quite like the "default.aspx" on my pages (even better is the "default.html" but i will look into that at a later date). I also have a need to keep it as I am translating an old site into Umbraco and need to follow the structure exactly. Cheers
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Ok, so i now have URLs like "/business/default.aspx" however when i try to land on that page its showing me the "/default.aspx" page instead. Anything else I have missed?
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Ok I have done some more testing and it seems the following is true. You cannot have similar page URLs in a branch e.g. /default.aspx
-------/business/default.aspx
-------/education/default.aspxThis structure (currently but prove me wrong) always chooses the /default.aspx over the correct sub page. I even tested it with: /default.aspx
-------/business/default.aspx
-------/business/somethingdifferent.aspx
-------/education/default.aspx
-------/education/somethingdifferent.aspx
/somethingdifferent.aspxand it when i try and navigate to /education/somethingdifferent.aspx it picks up the /somethingdifferent.aspx page instead. Is there another flag i should know about?
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Hi Colin, Append ?umbDebugShowTrace=true to the url. It should give some more info on how the page is being 'resolved' (How umbraco gets to the page being requested). Look for the 'umbracoRequestHandler' and 'XPath' keywords in there. Any pointers in there? I know of a "ensureUniqueNaming" settings in umbracoSettings.config but don't think it has anything to do with your case, as it takes care of ensuring a unique name for pages under the same parent. Looking forward to your answer. Regards, /Dirk
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Wow, this is a real quick reply forum! Liking it! Ok, added the trace to the end of the URL, and this is the first part of it: Code:Category Message
aspx.page Begin PreInit
aspx.page End PreInit
aspx.page Begin Init
umbracoInit handling request
request handler current url '/education/somethingdifferent.aspx'
umbracoRequestHandler Just before xPath query (True, '1059')
umbracoRequestHandler After xPath query
umbracoRequestHandler Access checking started
umbracoRequestHandler Page not protected
umbracoRequestHandler Access checking ended
umbracoInit Done handling request
umbracoPage Element loaded: MiddleContent
umbracoPage Pagedata loaded for Somethingdifferent (ID: 1059, Version: 23999edd-60a5-49cc-a347-65daa2cd7404)
umbracoPage Loading template (ID: 1040)
page Template loaded
umbracoTemplate Start parsing
template Begining of parsing rutine...
umbTemplate Outputting item: <?UMBRACO_MACRO macroAlias="Navigation">
umbracoMacro Macro loaded from cache (ID: 2, Navigation)
renderMacro Rendering started (macro: Navigation, type: 1, cacheRate: 0)
umbracoMacro Before adding extensions
umbracoMacro After adding extensions
umbracoMacro Before performing transformation
umbracoMacro After performing transformation
template Begining of parsing rutine...
umbTemplate Outputting item: <?UMBRACO_MACRO macroAlias="FlashHeader">
umbracoMacro Macro loaded from cache (ID: 1, Flash Header)
renderMacro Rendering started (macro: Flash Header, type: 3, cacheRate: 0)
umbracoMacro Usercontrol added (/usercontrols/flashHeader.ascx) These two lines are the ones where the engine is picking the page (i believe): request handler current url '/education/somethingdifferent.aspx'
umbracoRequestHandler Just before xPath query (True, '1059')But it has definitely picked the wrong page ID. The ID 1059 is the root page called /somethingdifferent.aspx it should have picked up ID 1058. I went into the database and ran the view that the engine calls, and looked at the column named path to be sure i was correct in this, and yes, /education/somethingdifferent.aspx has a path of -1,1041,1057,1058 but the page the engine selects has a path of -1,1059. Cheers for any help, Colin
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Hi, Bit strange. Don't have an umbraco install atm, but if you don't worry to get your hands dirty, I would recommend to download latest changeset and debug the whole thing. Or, as a last test, unpublish the /somethingdifferent.aspx page to check whether the page is now correctly 'resolved'. It will either be a config setting (that I'm not aware of...) or it's an issue. requesthandler.cs should be a good starting point for debugging. Hope that helps. Regards, /Dirk
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Thanks Dirk, I would love to do that, but I don't have the time unfortunately. But your second solution worked. I deleted the page /somethingdifferent.aspx and recreated it. The similar named pages now work properly, so it looks like the engine finds the first instance of the page name, and stops. However that said, the /business/default.aspx and /education/default.aspx still resolve to the wrong page, it resolves to the /default.aspx. Rats, i may just have to download the whole change set.
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Does it make a difference that I am currently using v3.0.3?
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Found the problem, and the solution. I downloaded the source code for umbraco and hooked it all up...after some fiddling. The following code lines in a file called requestHandler.cs: Code:if (GlobalSettings.HideTopLevelNodeFromPath && requestRawUrl.Length == 2)
{
_tempQuery += " | " + pageXPathQueryStart + "/node [" + _urlName + " = \"" + requestRawUrl[1].Replace(".aspx", "").ToLower() + "\"]";
} add in an extra clause to the query of the database. This clause is always true (due to my naming of files) and thus brings out the very first page everytime, and due to the order they are in - numerical by the page id - the default.aspx of the root directory of the site is always top of the list, and thus gets displayed. By removing this extra clause I get the desired effect. Phew!
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Great you've found a solution. If it's true what you say, I would recommend adding this issue to Codeplex, as this is something other people might run into in the end. Do you mind adding it? Regards, /Dirk
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I wouldn't really know how to add it. I am very much new to the open source style coding world. I have always done in house propriatry coding and never used codeplex the way its supposed to be used. Can you maybe point me in the right direction of where to start?
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Ok actually am getting new errors in the website - can't edit templates and documents are crashing! This won't be because of the code change per say, but the versions that the website code is expecting compared to the source code i downloaded?
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Sorted. I had set IIS to throw everything through iis_aspnet.dll and this is was causing me some problems. All sorted, all working! Nice!
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I meant aspnet_isapi.dll
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colin.wiseman wrote:I wouldn't really know how to add it. I am very much new to the open source style coding world. I have always done in house propriatry coding and never used codeplex the way its supposed to be used.
Can you maybe point me in the right direction of where to start? Just point browser to http://www.codeplex.com/umbraco and select the issuetracker tab. You'll have to login first to create new items. Or, I you don't have a login, create one first. It would be really great if you could do that. Anything that helps the umbraco team build better software is much appreciated. In the end, everybody wins. Hope that helps. Regards, /Dirk
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