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Niels, what are you thoughts?
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If we could agree how the dialog-section would fit in, i could begin demoing a bit-
A new section would imho be the best and easiest to devlope and maintain (more plug'n'playable .. whatever :blush: ) ...
Its not sure Niels agrees that a dialog-module should be included in a fresh install. Could be made a package instead ;)
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AndersM wrote:
If we could agree how the dialog-section would fit in, i could begin demoing a bit-
A new section would imho be the best and easiest to devlope and maintain (more plug'n'playable .. whatever :blush: ) ...
Its not sure Niels agrees that a dialog-module should be included in a fresh install. Could be made a package instead ;)
Hi Anders, Keeping it a separate solution/package would be the best thing to do. This way you can release new versions each week if you like. :roll: And the design goal for Umbraco core seems to be "keep it as simple as possible". Maybe the first version should use the Content section and wait with the "Dialog" section until there's enough reason to introduce it. I'm about to go on 3 - 4 weeks vacation (friday) but email me / call if I can be of any help before that. Kindly, Jesper
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Jesper Ordrup wrote:
Maybe the first version should use the Content section and wait with the "Dialog" section until there's enough reason to introduce it.
Just some quick thoughts: If i would rework the whole thing, and create a new Module/App. I think there has to be some restrictions/control to the documents/documenttypes created, for the whole dialog-app to work as intended..? First of all, the current newslettereditor has to be thrown out. A newsletter-document would instead use a usercontrol with some buttons doing the sending, and a tinymce editorcontrol Hmm, think i will think some more about this :dontgetit:
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Just some quick thoughts:
If i would rework the whole thing, and create a new Module/App. I think there has to be some restrictions/control to the documents/documenttypes created, for the whole dialog-app to work as intended..?
First of all, the current newslettereditor has to be thrown out. A newsletter-document would instead use a usercontrol with some buttons doing the sending, and a tinymce editorcontrol
Hmm, think i will think some more about this :dontgetit:
I still like the thought of the "Dialog" section but maybe it's not the most important thing to start with. Creating a new content type is not a big thing but ... I'm hoping that a first solution could be using much of the existing architecture documenttypes, datatypes, templates .. with some additional separate datatypes which provided sending emails and historic views. In my opinion the most important stuff is: * a datatype that can handle testing/sending the newsletter in another thread. It shouldnt be a part of any editor. * a datatype (maybe the same) shows you current status/history of this newsletter * all the stuff you already build in (merge, xslt library merge method for online viewing) ... * mail wash via smtp server integration ... * some extra umbraco stats reports * Section "Dialog" ( if needed ) Kindly, Jesper
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Jesper Ordrup wrote:
I still like the thought of the "Dialog" section but maybe it's not the most important thing to start with. Creating a new content type is not a big thing but ... I'm hoping that a first solution could be using much of the existing architecture documenttypes, datatypes, templates .. with some additional separate datatypes which provided sending emails and historic views.
I agree to that. I just wanted the newsletter-stuff seperated from the content-app, but having looked at how much is involved in creating a new app, ill skip that! :D Jesper Ordrup wrote:
* a datatype that can handle testing/sending the newsletter in another thread. It shouldnt be a part of any editor.
* a datatype (maybe the same) shows you current status/history of this newsletter
Totally agree. I guess it was built into the editor because it didnt use templates at first, and just sended what was written in the editot. Now its not neccesary. Jesper Ordrup wrote:
* mail wash via smtp server integration
Im not sure what you mean by that? (catching incomming mail?) If some guru could make a singleton async mailer we could use, that would be great (ill try to build something if i got time)
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Im not sure what you mean by that? (catching incomming mail?)
If some guru could make a singleton async mailer we could use, that would be great (ill try to build something if i got time)
The smtp server for better control when sending out the newsletter. Having a tighter integration with it would give your more information about the communication with the receivers smtp server. But maybe this info can be retrieved in another way. Kindly, Jesper
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The smtp server for better control when sending out the newsletter. Having a tighter integration with it would give your more information about the communication with the receivers smtp server. But maybe this info can be retrieved in another way.
Nope, no information returned using System.Net.Mail as far as i can see... You can control how the mails will be send (IIS or a pickup-folder for external program)
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Currently i am editing my newsletter in tinymce, and using my new nifty control to send the newsletters. Did i mention the email-control uses asp.net ajax? :thumbup:
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Currently i am editing my newsletter in tinymce, and using my new nifty control to send the newsletters. Did i mention the email-control uses asp.net ajax? :thumbup:
Yes you did. Where's the download link? :) Jesper
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Easy now, it aint finished :D
About 30 minutes
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Easy now, it aint finished :D
About 30 minutes
Here's my msn email if you wan't some faster ping pong : jesper [x] jesper.com
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Note, its named MailerControl(tm) in the datatypes now!
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okay, this looks pretty interesting and something that i definitely want to learn more about. Problem is i am a bit slow at times... any quick reference on how best to use this thing to see it in action? thanks for your patience in advance. Bob
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Some quick steps, im tired after hacking: Download the zip. Unpack the two files. Put them in the bin-folder on your website. Create a new datatype. Name it mailControl. In the dropdown in the datatype, find mailControl. Save. Some options appear. Fill'em in. Add the datatype to a documenttype. Done! Open a document of that type!  Note, no performance-test done.
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AndersM wrote:Some quick steps, im tired after hacking: Download the zip. Unpack the two files. Put them in the bin-folder on your website. Create a new datatype. Name it mailControl. In the dropdown in the datatype, find mailControl. Save. Some options appear. Fill'em in. Add the datatype to a documenttype. Done! Open a document of that type! Note, no performance-test done. .. same link as earlier? kindly, Jesper
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getting a windows error when trying to send the email...  any thoughts?
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Additional notes on how to use. It's pretty much the same as the old so go to http://dl.jesper.com/start-page/simplemailer.aspx and get the readme.pdf from the zip file. Extract: Type in any member profile field in the text editor and it will be merged with the corresponding value when mailed - like this: [memberId] [memberName] or [memberText] [memberLoginName] [memberPassword] [memberEmail] And any membertype fields are merged too. If you've defined a field with an alias of "addressXXX" you can just use it as: [addressXXX] 2 other important notes: remember to save before mailing and remember that the template cannot have any web form tags/usercontrols. Kindly, Jesper
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Oh yes, its a new link: http://www.onlinesystems.dk/Shop.Web.Umbraco.Datatypes.zip
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