Sales arguments for Umbraco CMS Options
Christian Foged
Posted: Thursday, August 24, 2006 3:05:25 PM
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Aloha

We are starting to actually putting some info about Umbraco on our website (wow - finally) http://netmedia.dk.

So what would you say is the key benifits for selling Umbraco to a customer?

For now we think it's stuff like (not prioritized order):

For end users/editors:
- "If you can use Word, you can use Umbraco" - no rocket science.
- Open Source (one of them buzz words :dribble: )
- Great GUI for editing pages
- Very easy to create, copy, move, delete pages
- No artificial limitations, like max 25 pages.
- Rollback feature
- Publish date - remove date.
- Media library
- Very easy to make good SEO
- Readable URLs
- Image scaling directly in GUI
- Fast CMS
- No stupid workflows
- RSS feeds
- Site search, sitemap, breadcrumbs (what ever turns the customer on) etc...
- Maxium design freedom
- Headers, fonts etc controlled by CSS - NOT enduser.
- Easy to customize with new functionality
- Easy/fast to make acces protected pages
- Danish "core team" (...good argument in Denmark)

For techies:
- Open source
- .NET / C# / MSSQL
- Fast CMS
- Easy to integrate with other systems
- Easy to create new librarys
- Active and fast growing community

Try to focus on what you think is great about Umbraco, that I have missed out on while typing away - mainly end users/editors. Don't focus on what could be better :thumbdown:

Inputs wanted/needed :thumbup:

"Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goal."
Christian Foged
Posted: Thursday, August 24, 2006 3:08:01 PM
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...forgot Blog.

Starting to become a bigger selling point. Even companys wanna blog now...

"Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goal."
sjors
Posted: Thursday, August 24, 2006 3:10:15 PM

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RSS integration :)
Crossbrowser compatible
HFloyd
Posted: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:07:45 PM

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I think one of the main advantages from a designer and a client standpoint is the integrated templating & CSS:

- Nested templates & doctype-specific templates allow for effortless page-to-page consistency (and site-wide instant updating (aka, the logo or the footer text changes...))

- Ability to allow writers/editors to use defined styles in the editor

I think consistency is one of the markers of a professional site.

Also, XSLT can allow content items to appear on the homepage (or other pages) which are either random rotating items or ones with a certain property (aka most recent), without having to manually update the homepage when new content is added.

-Heather



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twynham
Posted: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:34:52 PM
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Christian Foged wrote:

- Maxium design freedom

This line fails to give justice to Umbraco. Anyone who has ever tried to use ANY other CMS will know how limited other solutions generally are. Umbraco gives freedom on so many levels from the ability to craft really great XHTML exactly how you want it using XSLT to the freedom to create .net based controls and expand / integrate the platform.

I now feel that I can approach any client and say "folks, there's nothing I can't do". Try saying that with any other CMS - it's usually "err, I'll, err, have to go away and think about it". Hell, if I don't know something, I just ask here :thumbup:

Selling Tactics
Note that most CMS use Marketing Speak to sell their wares. They tend to focus on perceived BENEFITS such as (lifted from one such brochure) :whistle:

- Easier to keep your content up to date
(Obvious, but again, perceived benefit)

- The ability to add / move pages and the navigation / links will all change automatically.
(Well, duh!)

- Back Office Integration
(Believe it or not, this means you can cut and paste from Word :dribble:)

Remember... it's BENEFITS that sell to customers, not FEATURES.

Security
I would also add SECURITY to the list. Having worked with a number of other (open and closed source) CMS solutions, it's really good to see the efforts here to build a secure solution (esp. around the SQL component).

I've just had to inform one commercial CMS (been in development 2-3 years, and recently offered to one of my clients!) that I can break into their server just by corrupting the URL - a problem with the Application_BeginRequest / URL rewrite handler which has to be the most fundemental part of any CMS software. If they can't get that part of the CMS right, what hope have they?? :blush:

Stewart
Bawden Quinn Associates
UK



Bawden Quinn Associates, UK
Christian Foged
Posted: Friday, August 25, 2006 5:42:50 PM
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Stewart Twynham wrote:

Remember... it's BENEFITS that sell to customers, not FEATURES.


I agree 100% it's the benifits that sell. Was just trying to collect all positive stuff about Umbraco - it's not compiled into a sales pitch yet :p

Keep'em comming :thumbup:


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hartvig
Posted: Friday, August 25, 2006 8:17:04 PM

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Quote:
- Danish "core team" (...good argument in Denmark)

And a crappy one in all other countries. Unless we could brand umbraco as the "Egg" of CMS ;-)

(btw: Brilliant initiative, sorry for making jokes)

Jeeeez, did I really start this :-)
Christian Foged
Posted: Friday, August 25, 2006 8:49:35 PM
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Niels Hartvig wrote:

Quote:
- Danish "core team" (...good argument in Denmark)

And a crappy one in all other countries. Unless we could brand umbraco as the "Egg" of CMS ;-)


Evil evil Niels :(

Blah blah blah - Umbraco IS getting there. Danish design isn't only furniture - might I mention stuff like C#, Turbo Pascal, Skype, Typo 3 CMS (which we dislike of course), Joomla CMS(which we dislike of course), Mambo CMS(which we dislike of course) etc... Umbraco is next on that list :w00t:

The reason that I mentioned the DK factor, is that it actually works for our customers - som kind of "if it's danish it can't be bad?" phenomenon. If it works for us - why not share?

PS: LOVE "The Egg" - my parents have one, and I try to sneak it out everytime I visit, but for some odd reason, they ALWAYS notice :innocent:

"Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goal."
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